Feminist New Year’s Resolutions – strangely they never include anything about caring for their families.

Despite a lingering migraine, I’ve promised to pack up a van-load full of kids and take them to the Toledo Zoo’s Lights Before Christmas, so I won’t have time to write up a real post again today.

But in the spirit of a bit of holiday humor, let us turn to feminist Twitter. There is no parody necessary as their tweets are hilarious in and of themselves if you just check out the hashtag . Let’s look at a few, shall we?

Remember how on another blog, I once claimed that liberals in general and feminists in particular tend toward emotional histrionics and violent imagery? Several of my feminist readers were baffled, ’cause gosh they just never ever noticed any violent tendencies among feminists at all. Hmm…

Yeah, yeah, it’s all good fun and jokey-jokey until a man tries to join in and make a joke about date-rape and bitch-slapping, innit?

Anyway.

Oh look, a feminist who agrees with me!

Yes, dear, I remind women not infrequently that they neither need feminism nor need to vote.

This girl, whom I believe is anti-feminism, gets it half right anyway:

A better idea: neither cry rape NOR have a shameful one-night stand.

Dunno about this one – seems to me they’re doing pretty well with this already:

This young woman speaks in a reasonable voice but good luck with that goal, sister:

…because most normal women don’t want to self-identify with a movement that turns women into this:

And I know I have a few fairly reasonable readers here who self-identify as feminists and sometimes claim the extreme voices are not typical of the movement but have a look at how many feminists favorited Miss Shoichet’s tweet. Her position is hardly on the fringe of the movement.

To the reasonable “feminists” reading here, I would say: why continue to ally with such a whacked-out group of women? OK, maybe you can’t identify with a Christian traditionalist such as I am, but why not create some other kind of group then, one that doesn’t seem to attract crazy people who can’t stand the idea of smiling, freak out at innocuous comments made by strangers, and indulge in violent fantasies as if they were normal reactions? Can’t you see that these women are on par with many of the whacko-misogynists in the manosphere? Sure, NAFALT (not all feminists are like that) but then again NAMALT (not all manospherians are like that), but enough feminists and manospherians are like that so that I certainly wouldn’t self-identify with either group.

Perhaps a better New Year’s resolution for all of us would be to find a reasonable, truthful, realistic alternative to the crazy shriekers on both sides. To that end, I leave you with this rather wise comment made recently by Mrs. Minter:

For all the trope that exists about what constitutes a real strong woman, the actual telltale is the ability to hold a civilized conversation. And that means sometimes not continuing a disagreement in favor of finding common ground. Real strong women build bridges; idiots yell at the river.

_________________________________________________________________________

Nota bene: Occasionally I will quote other bloggers or post tweets here from other people on Twitter. This does not imply that I either agree or disagree with those bloggers or tweeters nor that I support or endorse anything else they may have written. Quotes and tweets posted here are ones that I found thought-provoking.

Advertisements

21 thoughts on “Feminist New Year’s Resolutions – strangely they never include anything about caring for their families.

  1. I don’t think feminists will ever find it in themselves to weed out the wackos. While the Radfems want to whittle down men to ten percent of the population and Valerie Solanis will always be a heroine, it will carry on as always.
    It is good that you point this out. I think ordinary women are beginning to see this.

    Like

  2. I am surprised that this thread hasn’t taken off. It is reminiscient of the old posts.
    About the anger and viollence in the tweets, the anger is very real but, they are relying on the threats of violence being discounted because they are women. It is only a matter of time before one of them goes nuts in public.

    Like

  3. Well, you identify as a Christian. Does that mean you endorse the Westboro Baptist Church and the many paedophile priests in the Catholic Church? Whose actions are far, far worse than a couple of internet feminists pulling faces.

    In both cases – Christianity and feminism – they’re broad institutions, who draw members from a wide range of viewpoints, including some frankly contradictory ones.

    The manosphere, on the other hand, is specifically an internet phenomenon that functions largely like a cult group (e.g. pseudoscientific thinking). Its members are wackos pretty much by definition.

    (Also, maybe it’s because I’m a hardened feminazi, but what you’re calling threats of violence and hysteria – training cats to attack, or standing on one’s head and kicking – I read as attempts at humour. Do you REALLY believe these ‘threats’ are equivalent to threats of rape and punching?)

    Like

  4. My continuing New Year’s Resolution: don’t touch crazy. As an empath, it is extremely important for me to have strong boundaries. Empaths are most easily affected by people with pathological personalities and can end up perverting their nature through contact with them. In various wrangles I’ve had with these kinds of people over the years, I have learned the only way to “win” is by having nothing whatsoever to do with them.

    The year has been an exceedingly good and affirmative one. Everything is turning out as anticipated. I am excited for the future and what it holds. I see myself finding a new virtual community that might allow me to wield some influence. #waitingforyour19thbirthday

    Like

  5. Bodycrimes,
    You’re personally all right but, you may want to consider who you’ll support. I think that as fewer women identify as feminist, it will become more radical. I have a sneaking suspicion that the quotes in the original post are mild in comparison to what could be found.

    Like

    • I think you’re OK too. I’m sorry to hear about your broken heart.

      FWIW, the only solution to heartbreak is more vulnerability, as awful as that sounds. You have to get out there and be prepared to have your heart broken all over again.

      It’s the human condition.

      Terrible, isn’t it? And yet, kinda good at the same time. The people who love us for our frailties are the people most worth loving.

      Like

  6. The manosphere, on the other hand, is specifically an internet phenomenon that functions largely like a cult group (e.g. pseudoscientific thinking). Its members are wackos pretty much by definition.

    I’ve found it to be anecdotal observations that are corroborated by literally thousands of individuals who have similar anecdotes to support the observations. Do you assume employers who analyze MBTI in considering a candidate to hire to be cult groups as well?

    (Also, maybe it’s because I’m a hardened feminazi, but what you’re calling threats of violence and hysteria – training cats to attack, or standing on one’s head and kicking – I read as attempts at humour. Do you REALLY believe these ‘threats’ are equivalent to threats of rape and punching?)

    Do you know why you don’t REALLY believe these threats are equivalent to threats of rape and punching?

    The answer to that betrays any egalitarian belief you may hold.

    Like

  7. Well, you identify as a Christian. Does that mean you endorse the Westboro Baptist Church and the many paedophile priests in the Catholic Church? Whose actions are far, far worse than a couple of internet feminists pulling faces.

    The difference is that most Christians speak out against the lunatic fringe like Westboro Baptist but feminists don’t seem to do this. I can only conclude it is because the lunatic fringe of feminism is considered acceptable to most feminists.

    The manosphere, on the other hand, is specifically an internet phenomenon that functions largely like a cult group (e.g. pseudoscientific thinking). Its members are wackos pretty much by definition.

    It didn’t use to be so much like that. I’m not quite sure what happened there, but it used to be a place you could have a really interesting conversation. Of course, there are still a handful of manosphere bloggers whose sites I read (Dalrock, Vox Day). That doesn’t mean I agree with them on everything – I very much don’t agree with them on a few issues, the morality of “game” being one of them – but I think they have interesting and worthwhile things to say. But I don’t read the comment threads anymore. Still, I wouldn’t call Dalrock or Vox “wackos”.

    (Also, maybe it’s because I’m a hardened feminazi, but what you’re calling threats of violence and hysteria – training cats to attack, or standing on one’s head and kicking – I read as attempts at humour. Do you REALLY believe these ‘threats’ are equivalent to threats of rape and punching?)

    The reason I don’t believe their threats are equal is because women run their mouths endlessly but do very little, whereas a threat from a man often is more serious because he’s less like to spout threats he doesn’t intend to back up. Regarding “ass-kicking”, women talk big but do little, and that’s no credit to them. Better they should hold their peace or speak more seriously.

    A fool’s lips walk into a fight, and his mouth invites a beating. – Proverbs 18:6

    Like

    • Dalrock? Vox? Do you REALLY believe what they say about the ‘cock carousel’ and ‘hypergamy’ etc? And, if you do, do you honestly – honestly! – know any women like this?

      They write well, so they sound reasonable. But if you look at what they’re saying, they’re whack jobs.

      Like

      • Do I believe hypergamy is a real thing? Sure I do. And within reasonable limits (i.e. within the limits of traditional biblical sexual morality), it is even a good thing. It mostly just means a woman wants to marry the very best man she possibly can, preferably a man whom she can really look up to because she sees him as even better than herself. There really is nothing wrong with that. The problem comes in when this natural desire in women gets short-circuited by the casual sex hookup culture.

        The carousel? I guess I’d need to know exactly what it is you are asking me here. Are you asking me if I believe casual sex is detrimental to women, damaging them physically, spiritually, and emotionally? The answer to that is a resounding yes. There’s a fair amount of research on this topic now to back that up, including the increased risk of divorce a woman has as her partner count increases.

        Do I believe women who’ve had many partners are unredeemable? No, of course not. But a wise man is careful as he picks the future mother of his children, given how traumatic divorce is for children, and this is something he must take into account.

        Now, having said all that, do I agree that the manosphere is cult-like? Well, I think the cultishness comes mostly from one blogger. That particular blogger tolerates no dissent from his particular agenda and uses very cultish tactics to make sure discussions he doesn’t like are shut down. That so many manospherians seem to both idolize and fear him is rather strange. But take someone like Donal Graeme or Deep Strength- I don’t find such men cultish, do you? I may not always agree with them, but I think they are seeking wisdom and understanding and there is no harm in that.

        Liked by 1 person

  8. I’d have to agree with BodyCrime’s assessment of the manosphere. They are much more scary than the feminists you’ve quoted and much more unhappy it seems. Look at Darlock and his “happily married husband and father” tagline. Why would a happily married man spend hours each week blogging about how all women are inherently evil?The comments on his blog are unreal.Lots of sour grapes from men who can’t find and/or keep a woman, any woman.

    I live in liberal land. Most of the feminists I know aren’t at all hateful and most seem happy.

    Like

    • In general I find neither feminists nor the manosphere “scary”. I’m hard to scare. Even when I should be scared.

      I don’t agree at all that the manosphere seems “more” unhappy than feminists. LLB, come on. You go on over to tumblr and have a look at any of the #feminist posts/sites there, then report back to us. Do you see a radiating joy there? Because I sure don’t. Both sides seem equally unhappy and are blaming the other side. And some of that blame is fair and some of it is projection and some of it is a way to protect oneself from feeling pain. As time has gone on, I’ve become more sorrowful about the obvious pain that is coming out as anger on both sides. I’m not afraid of it and I don’t hate feminists or manospherians (though I do hate “feminism” just as I hate misogyny, because these are clearly things God also hates); what I am is sad. It’s not a pretty thing. And I’m just trying to communicate some of the lessons I’ve learned that I hope others will find helpful.

      Look at Darlock and his “happily married husband and father” tagline. Why would a happily married man spend hours each week blogging about how all women are inherently evil?

      I’ve never seen a post in which Dalrock asserts that women are inherently evil. Of course, Christians believe that we all have sinned and that the wages of sin is death, so in a way each one of us is evil. The Bible says that men (meaning people) love darkness. But mostly what Dalrock writes about is feminism, which is not “all women”. And I don’t find it odd that a happily married person would keep a blog on any particular subject. You don’t have to be experiencing something personally in order to make observations about it.

      Having said that, I want to reassert that I do not always agree with Dalrock. Recently he wrote a post in which he claimed that two young women who called campus security over a young man who pursued them, blocked their paths, and even grabbed a hold of one of them in pursuit of a date were somehow out of line. I almost never comment on D’s site anymore but I commented on that one to disagree with him. And he was fine with it; he defended his position, I explained why I didn’t agree, he disagreed with my disagreement and that was that.

      The comments on his blog are unreal

      Mostly I agree with you on this. A small group of people have hijacked the place. It happens.

      Lots of sour grapes from men who can’t find and/or keep a woman, any woman.

      This seems like a needlessly cruel thing to say. Why, I wonder, did you say it? Perhaps it’s true, but I wouldn’t characterize it as sour grapes. People tend to lash out in anger when they are feeling pain.

      It’s not especially funny that people are having a hard time finding and keeping spouses in our modern times; women have believed a lot of lies that lead them to make choices that ultimately do not leave them happy and fulfilled. The same is true for men.

      Liked by 1 person

  9. LeeLeeBug,
    After all this time, I would have thought you would have come to understand. I think maybe Farm Boy said it best, “The manosphere is where romantics come to die.”.I came here looking for answers and only found more questions. To add to that, I have been nursing a broken heart for a long time.
    As for Dalrock, I’ll read his posts but not his comments. I got shamed for flirting there last spring.

    Like

  10. Fuzzie,

    I certainly wouldn’t put you in the same category as the men who post at Dalrock’s place. You seem sensitive and intelligent and overall a good catch. Plus, I remember you being tall and good looking when you posted a link to your dating profile.

    Perhaps it’s just bad timing or your geographical location that’s prevented you from finding your teddy bear

    Those men, on the other hand, are bitter, angry and in many cases misogynistic. That would prevent them from finding women regardless of their circumstances.

    I remember a young man who used to post on Sunshine’s old blog. He insisted that women are inferior to men, using Bible passages on how wives should submit to their husbands to back up his assertion.

    Now, otherwise he seemed like a decent guy, intelligent with a good job and physically fit. But, how many women are going to want a man who believes that they are inferior?

    Sunshine,
    You’re There’s nothing unusual about blogging about a subject that you find interesting. But, I still think it’s strange for a supposedly happily married man to blog almost daily about how women only get married for cash and prizes and who scours the Internet for examples of women who he believes are behaving badly.

    Why doesn’t he ever offer Biblical advice on how to have a happy marriage, or encouraging anecdotes from his own marriage?

    Most men I know would rather spend their free time with their wives and children or enjoying time alone at their workshops or at the shooting range or gym.

    Like

    • LeeLeeBug,
      I’ll concede that they’re angry. Put you in their position and you’d be too. That is is, until you realized that it’s not very constructive. Maybe , they have to go through that.
      As for my luck, I have to accept that it’s not luck but, whatever it is, it outside of my control. Be glad that you’re married and well out of it.

      Like

  11. Those men, on the other hand, are bitter, angry and in many cases misogynistic. That would prevent them from finding women regardless of their circumstances.

    I do think that you read much into what the fellas say at Dalrock’s. There are some hot-heads, but mostly they are well-reasoned and on the inside good men. If a unicorn came their way, they would probably jump, and the couple would be happy.

    Like

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s